The lord will rise from the dead!

Was called “Lord of Lords”, “King of Kings”, “God of Gods”, “Resurrection and the Life”, “Good Shepherd”, “Eternity and Everlastingness”, and the god who “made men and women to be “born again”
His birth was announced by Three Wise Men.

Had a star in the east that signified his birth
Had a Eucharist ceremony of sorts, in which his flesh was eaten in the form of communion cakes of wheat
Was killed and later resurrected, providing hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.

Any ideas who this is describing?

Written by Mr. Atheist

April 3, 2010 at 09:32

Posted in Religious Considerations

Tagged with born again, Christ, good shepherd, Jesus, Jesus Christ, king of kings, lord of lords, resurrection

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Uh oh, I smell some zeitgeist bs.

bradley

April 4, 2010 at 13:10
So…Brad. Who is this describing?

Mr. Atheist

April 4, 2010 at 21:08
Aw… don’t do it Mr_A.
Save yourself while its still ambiguous.

Dare I? Why, that’s Jesus Christ, of course. Right?

bradley

April 4, 2010 at 21:53
Well, it’s also jesus… but he wasn’t the first to have these attributes.

Mr. Atheist

April 5, 2010 at 00:33
Well, he is the only to have ALL of those attributes, and more. The perfect storm of savior, if you will. And that’s not even a vague stretch of the imagination… but, clearly stated again and again… with picturesque detail.

And the coolest part is he is the only one that didn’t demand anything from us but to accept his love. It’s almost like he knows we’ll never be perfect because he made us that way. That’s way better than a penis-less river god.

bradley

April 5, 2010 at 06:20
There is no room for the possibility that jesus was just an adaptation of an earlier belief?

Mr. Atheist

April 5, 2010 at 11:10
lol, the interwebz will rot your brains, mr_a

But anyway… I’m up for thinking about any number of possibilities. There’s not much that surprises me.

bradley

April 5, 2010 at 11:25
Brad,

I like family trees. I rather enjoy thinking that my bloodline comes from Charlemagne and beyond. I like the idea that my ancestry makes me who I am (on some level). It is a fun pastime to try and piece my genealogy. I am considering the DNA trace that National Geographic is offering (kinda pricey, but hey, what isn’t these days).

That said… It seems that you can do the same with religion. You can trace back the roots of the Mormons, right? How far back do you go? Do you stop when it feels comfortable? Do you push through the discomfort and find the traces of some long lost belief system…that abruptly ends on a cave painting in Lascaux, France?

It is important to me to “follow the evidence” where it leads. All the way. Even if that means flipping my own belief system on its head and then some. Crushing it and inspecting the powder and residue to see what the influences were. Religion should be inspected and deconstructed and reduced to its most elemental form. Ultimately, I have found, that religion is just that. Reducible. Reducibly man made.

You disagree? I must ask then, how far back have you investigated. This is not something most christians are willing to do. They will stop at some point. But why? Why not go back as far as we can to uncover and rediscover the origins of belief? What is so scary about that?

“…seek and ye shall find…”

Mr. Atheist

April 5, 2010 at 20:41
Ok, wait. You are describing tracing back religion based on the commonality of worshiping a deity… like tracing human ancestry based on breathing. Yes, we are related to the early tetrapods because we all breath, but that doesn’t make us anywhere close to a lobe-finned fish.

The reality of Judaism, if you believe the Israelites were born out of Egyptian bondage, is it would reflect some of what they knew, even when they strived to create a cultural divide as wide as the Red Sea.
The perception of a Messiah would naturally take on the same attributes of any institutional belief, for lack of a better description. What are the qualities of a divine Messiah? a, b, c, and d. That is about the only shared belief. If there will be God on Earth, he will be like “this”.

So now let’s look at the REAL Messiah, because it just gets cooler and cooler.

He WASN’T a king, by institutional standards.
He WASN’T all-powerful, by institutional standards.
He DIDN’T command armies, by institutional standards.
He DIDN’T kick a little ass, by institutional standards.
He DIDN’T free the Jews from bondage, by institutional standards.

He was the anti-institution Messiah, if I may be so bold. However, he DID demonstrate God’s will. Regardless of what Man thinks we are capable of, there’s really only one responsibility we have… love others. We can’t control the weather, we can’t control death, we can’t control Man… we can only love while we’re here. For everything else… God.
Isn’t it weird that Jesus/God would pray to God for everything? I KNOW you think it’s weird.

Now, should we clear up the Osiris rubbish you posted? I hope you’re only trolling with that statement and not really basing any of your thoughts on that. The bulk of what’s in that statement is simply false. And I don’t mean that I disagree with the “interpretation”… I mean it cannot be found in any of the hieroglyphs period… totally made up.

bradley

April 6, 2010 at 04:43
I will just hit those few statements:

He WASN’T a king, by institutional standards.
…hasn’t the religion built around him satisfy this?

He WASN’T all-powerful, by institutional standards.
…wasn’t he the son of the almighty?

He DIDN’T command armies, by institutional standards.
…assuming he was real… centuries later I would argue…

He DIDN’T kick a little ass, by institutional standards.
… he did (if you assume he was real again) did kick some ass at the temple…

He DIDN’T free the Jews from bondage, by institutional standards.
…wasn’t that Moses?

Assuming all of these arguments can be, in fact, argued…

Anonymous

April 10, 2010 at 11:08
Hello Anon Y. Mous’

Key to all of this is “by institutional standards.”

1. king… yes
2. power… yes
3. armies… yes
4. ass… yes
5. moses… no

bradley

April 10, 2010 at 17:19
I hope things are going great for you mr_a. Time to enjoy some awesome summer, right?

bradley

May 12, 2010 at 06:19
One of the caesars or some random king.

Anonymous

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